tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33075559.post7237968361788665356..comments2012-01-25T07:47:02.649-05:00Comments on Grist for the Muse: Muse Review: TV-TropesMichaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04424916866396539422noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33075559.post-65976215444912325022011-03-22T11:27:54.133-04:002011-03-22T11:27:54.133-04:00True. This is focused on TV and Films, with some r...True. This is focused on TV and Films, with some references to literature. I think TV tropes is good for showing generic plot points character types, and conventions, since everyone has different tastes and interests and probably need different examples to use as illustrations for these conventions.<br /><br />What does this say about us writers then? Especially those who work in TV and film? Have these commercial pressures made tropes critical for any kind of success?<br /><br />I don't think I agree with the definition that TV tropes provided that says "tropes are not clichés." The longer I look at the site, the more I believe that these are indeed clichés and should be avoided.<br /><br />That being said as you said a competent storyteller can twist one of these old clichés presented in a new light. Because as we all know, there are no new stories, just new twists on old tales.<br /><br />Thank you for your comment, Robert.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424916866396539422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33075559.post-24088921412533594652011-03-22T11:26:24.652-04:002011-03-22T11:26:24.652-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04424916866396539422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33075559.post-10151113468591973362011-03-21T23:13:48.770-04:002011-03-21T23:13:48.770-04:00This is a brilliant site, but not particularly rel...This is a brilliant site, but not particularly relevant to literature. Frankly, I look at tropes in a negative way .. and partly as a result of commercial pressures in TV and film. It is a more helpful guide to pop culture than to storytelling forms, but it is certainly worthwhile to spend a day or two (or three) becoming familiar with most of the tropes which have already been done to death (so you know to avoid falling into these pits). <br /><br />On the other hand, a competent storyteller can give anything a fresh new feel. <br /><br />Robert Nagle, aka <br /><a href="http://www.imaginaryplanet.net/weblogs/idiotprogrammer/" rel="nofollow">Idiotprogrammer </a>.Robert Naglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244278749337954786noreply@blogger.com